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Gyming and hot water not good for hair loss

Postby sentarli » Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:02 am

I once read that gyming will increase hair loss, as the body produces for testostorone to build muscle. Since I have put down the heavy weights and now only do pull ups(own body weight) and cardio vascular exercises. However I cant see much difference in hair loss.

Does anybody know anything about the effects of gyming on hair loss? and how much it really helps not to do weights?

Another myth I have heard is not to wash your hair with hot water? is there any truth in this?

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Postby Bradley » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:09 pm

first, you should never let hair loss control your life. You begin to blame everything on hailoss and cease to do activities and eat certain foods, etc. Male pattern hair loss is genetics and genetics are a very powerful thing. "Gyming" is not going to effect your hair loss. Hot water can make your scalp inflammed if you are using many topicals, but does not directly affect hair loss unless you are scorching your skin.

I went through that phase too where everything around me was blamed. Its male pattern baldness...
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Postby cavdo » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:46 pm

Logically speaking, it “may” increase your hair loss because more testosterone is produced hence, my Testosterone converts into DHT. However, that’s just a theory, it is also believed that if your hair follicles are programmed to fall out, then it really would not matter how much DHT you have in your body.

Weight lifting will not increase your hair loss, even thought many people believe that…
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Postby hloss » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:46 pm

Does anyone know this for sure?
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Postby sentarli » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:39 am

Do yourself a favour go gym with heavy weights after the gym when you take a shower look at your hands after you wash your hair or even the next day, you will see that you loose much more hair.
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Postby GirlTech » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:07 am

Just because a hair falls out, doesn't mean that it will not grow back. It is part of the growth cycle for the old hair to be pushed out so a new hair can begin.

Even if working out causes changes in DHT levels, it will be very slight and generally not enough to produce a change in your hair loss progression. And besides, a healthy body will be more capable of producing healthy hair. Even if that hair is programmed to fall out, you can try to help slow the process of hair loss. If you are worried about excess levels of DHT, check into some DHT blockers like propecia or natural DHT blockers like HairCycle shampoo or saw palmetto supplements.

Many hair dressers have told me that if I wash my hair with hot water, it opens the cuticle. The cuticle protects the hair, so when it is opened, my hair is more susceptible to damage. They suggest that if I wash my hair with hot water, then I should follow it with a cool rinse to seal the cuticle. That way the hair is more protected, shiny, and less frizzy. This doesn’t really have much to do with the life span or germination structures of the follicle, but it might make your hair look nice.
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Postby tekito » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:56 pm

Sentarli, as a fellow lifter I'm also concerned about the supposed hair loss connection. As far as I can tell no one knows for sure. Some have noted that during heavy weight lifting testosterone can increase up to 40%. Others say that testosterone levels quickly go back to normal after workout and thus shouldn't effect hair loss. I've heard similar pro/con arguments for cardiovascular exercise, which lowers testosterone levels. But basically still haven't seen any strong scientific consensus one way or the other.
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Postby tekito » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:27 pm

Just found this on the internet, it's a Dr. Robert Bernstein stating strenuous exercise increases testosterone and thus accelerates balding:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/

I'm not sure whether to believe this or not, as I've heard other sources emphatically state the opposite. But he is a doctor so who knows.
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Postby Patrick » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:36 pm

In theory, the increase in testosterone will increase the level of DHT.Therefore we should expect more hair loss.I do agree with girltech and dr Bernstein:take propecia or use haircycle or saw palmetto to stop the transformation of testosterone to DHT and still benefit from the testosterone to build your muscles and your confidence.

working out has good benefit for your health.It improves your image and your self confidence.It also improves your blood circulation which should bring nutrients to your scalp and make your hairs look healthier and shiny.

You need both hairs and well build body.Just work on how to get both.DHT blockers could be a way to achieve that.
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Postby tekito » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:04 pm

Thanks much patrick! So glad to get some expert opinions.

I agree, being able to exercise and not worry about going bald is the only ideal solution. I'm going to try Haircycle for starters, but if push comes to shove I might have to choose my hair over working out. I've heard that cardiovascular training lower testosterone; maybe I'll mix that in more to offset the T-spikes of weightlifting, or switch to jogging altogether. That's speculation on my part though, I'll have to research it some.

One quick question: When it is stated that MPB is caused by testosterone/DHT, I assumed that meant as we age these substances rise to higher levels in the human body and that is what starts the balding procedure, but is MPB actually caused by the cumulative effect of these hormones over the course of a lifetime?
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Postby GirlTech » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:23 am

We don't really know exactally what causes mpb; it seems to be multi-factorial and it varies from individual to individual. However, blocking the production of DHT can stop, slow, or sometimes reverse the hair loss progression.

Let me know how the Hair Cycle works out for you.
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Postby sentarli » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:31 am

Well, I have switched to exercising with my own weight(eg pull ups, push ups etc) this in turn has helped me SLOW DOWN the process of loosing my hear. I know that if the hair is programmed to fall of it will but pushing that date further and further is my main objective.

I spend over 150USD every month for Nioxin products, work or not I think to my self at least Im TRYING to do something about the hairlose, same with not doing heavy weights anymore. I would like to hear from you fellow balders what other small natural things we can do to slow done the process( I am agaist any un-natural medications that will effect your hormones)

Cheers ;)
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Postby sentarli » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:36 am

girltech what is hair cycle? is it a pill or topical solution?
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Postby forhair » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:08 pm

sentarli, you can learn about haircycle on their home website:

http://www.haircycle.com

Baiscally Haircycle is a blend of DHT inhibitors, antioxidants, anti-inflammatory, cell proliferants, anagen stimulators, nitric oxide precursors and androgen blockers.
HairCycle is an all natural product and it can stimulate hair growth.
The Biotin Spray and the Post Surgical Gel helps with a better growth and fast healing for the post-operative hair restoration surgery.
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Postby GirlTech » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:30 am

Hair Cycle comes in shampoo, conditioner, light hold hair spray, styling gel, post-op donor gel, and post-op biotin spray.
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Postby sentarli » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:10 am

Hi girltech,


Which products of haircycle should I use for hair loss? Im already using the shampoo and conditioner. any other hair cyle product?

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Postby drcole » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:48 am

the shampoo and conditioner are wonderful every day items to prolong the anagen phase of your hair. Additional products from Haircycle depend on whether you use daily grooming products such as hair spray or conditioners. One of the major advantages of the Haircycle products is that they are all natural ingredients and lack sodium laurel sulfate, which is a potentialiy harmful lathering agent that is in most shampoos. Haircycle makes a hair spray and a gel. all the haircycle products contain natural ingredients, but you are getting very good benefits from the shampoo and conditioner alone.

You may want to consider some pharmaceutical agents to prolong anagen, as well. These include Nizoral shampoo. This can be used twice a week alternating with the haircycle shampoo. you can use the haircycle conditioner every day.

many men do not like to use conditioners, but the ingredients in haircycle are very good for you hair and prolong anagen. i would leave each of them on for 3 to 5 minutes prior to washing out. Nothing is going to stop your hair from falling out, but there is much you can do to retard it. All hairs a specific number of hair cycles. Suppose it the number of cycles is 10. if each cycle can be prolonged by one year, you might be able to prolong the loss of a hair by up to 10 years. therefore, the sooner in age that you begin to use haircycle, the better off you will be and the longer you will potentially have hair on your head.
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Postby sentarli » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:11 am

have been using haircylce for a month now havnt seen much benefit, or am I expecting results too soon/ Im planning on getting some Nizoral as well and Im using propecia. What else can I do??? what else is left?
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Postby drcole » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:54 am

You have to recognize what hair cycle does. It prolongs the anagen cycle. In other words, it helps you hair stay on your head longer. It is not going to strimulate new hairs to grow where there were no hairs.

Nizoral will also prolong anagen.

only minoxidil, propecia, and avodart have been shown to produce more hair on your head.

All hairs cycle. they go from anagen (growing) to telogen (resting), to effluvium (fall out). they continue to cycle over and over. Every hair has only so many cycles. Gradually, the growing phase decreases and the resting phase increases in length. Eventually, they barely grow. Hair cycle helps to keep them in the growing phase. It is a long term maintinance shampoo. It is not going to produce new hair. It is going to help you keep hair on your head longer.

i would use nizoral two times per week. hair cycle 5 times per week (shampoo and conditioner, saw palmetto, and propecia with or without minoxidil if you are serious about keeping your hair.
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