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Postby andyandy » Tue May 29, 2007 7:09 pm

...half year.... :)
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Percentage of BHT survive

Postby andyandy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:24 pm

Ok... I have a LOT of hair on my chest. They are little darker but I want to shave to zero anyway, so color is not so important....

As I said.., i have aprx. 10cm width and 2-3mm high scar.

My question is...:

How many BHT(FUE) is should put for the first session
How many BHT(FUE) is should put for the second session

To maximum good effects?

Second question:

What is a percentage of BHT survive what transplanting into scar?
and
What is a percentage of normal hair survive when transplanting into scar?

Is it also cost 5Euro? I mean BHT into scar?
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Percentage of BHT survive - corrected :)

Postby andyandy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:27 pm

Ok... I have a LOT of hair on my chest. They are little darker but I want to shave to zero anyway, so color is not so important....

As I said.., i have aprx. 10cm width and 2-3mm high scar.

My question is...:

How many BHT(FUE) I should put for the first session
How many BHT(FUE) I should put for the second session

To get maximum good effects?

Second question:

What is a percentage of BHT survive when transplanting into scar?
and
What is a percentage of normal hair survive when transplanting into scar?

Is it also cost 5Euro? I mean BHT into scar?
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Postby Jessica » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:02 am

Those are good questions to ask during a consultation with the doctor. Have you had a consultation yet?

This article talks about why scar grafting is recommended in sessions rather than all at once: http://www.forhair.com/hairtransplant/topic1328.html
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Postby Michelle » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:08 pm

Some strip scars are a little too wide to fully excise in one procedure. This may be the case with you. Typically with the Trichophytic closure, it works best when you have a thin scar to start with. Certainly they do help make the resulting scar much less noticeable. Some times you get some hairs growing into the scar that can cause an ingrown hair that has to be removed. Also, once you reduce the scar, you may need to add a little hair to the finer scar with FIT to FUE to make it look its best. This will be if the scar widens. You cannot predict who will get this. Again, Trichophytic closures work best only when the scar that you get is 1 mm wide. If it is 2 mm wide you will have a scar that is 1 mm wide and the Trichophytic hairs will grow into the other 1 mm.

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Unfortunately, I find that most doctors today still fail to recognize that some patients simply do not want a strip scar.

A strip scar that is 2 to 2.5 mm wide is not an ideal scar, but it is not a “bad” scar by most strip standards. One cannot ever predict a strip scar width. I find that a good strip scar will range from 1 mm in width to about 3 mm in width. An ideal scar is 1 to 2 mm at its maximum. There are certain things you can do that make a scar wider or narrower when you take the initial strip, but no strip harvest procedure that avoids a scar altogether. This is what you needed. I certainly hope your treating physician told you about the scar and told you that you would never be able to shave your head again without risking exposure of the scar. If he did not, you have a potential legal claim.

There is only one procedure that does not leave a strip scar. This is called, FUE, FIT, or the woods procedure. There are only a handful of docs in North America that offer this procedure today. We are perhaps the leaders in this field and have done the most to educate patients about this procedure internationally. You can read about FUE and FIT on our website at HYPERLINK "http://www.forhair.com/"www.forhair.com.

What you need to consider is what you should do about the scar. You have two options. One is to reduce the scar. The other is to graft hair into the scar so that it is camouflaged. There is one other option, tattooing the scar, but I would hold this to a last result.

I would not encourage you to reduce the scar because it may not be possible to reduce the scar. There are certain tricks that might help make the scar narrower. This feat alone will not guarantee that you will be able to conceal the scar completely. There are three methods to reduce scars following surgical excision of them. One is deep plane fixation (Paul Rose, MD), one is the gold suture (Brad Wolf, MD), and the third would be to place deep sutures in the incision that minimize stretch back of the scar. Several physicians do this including myself.

Another option is to graft into the scar. You will probably want to do this even if you try to reduce the scar. This will take longer to achieve a result, but it has the potential to create a much better result than reduction alone since the scar will now be camouflaged. You will want to harvest the hair using FUE or FIT. We do this procedure all the time since we specialize in repair work. Often the scars we treat are much worse than the one you describe. FUE and FIT leave very tiny scars in the donor area that are usually not visible to the naked eye of the lay consumer even when you shave the head with a BIC.

If you reduce the scar or graft into it, the incision line will be red or pink for 3 to 8 months after the procedure. This is increased blood flow to the incision line so that the body can repair the injury.

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Re: But how many %

Postby FIThair » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:19 pm

Hi Andy,

Here some answers:

How many % will grown after FUE into the scar?
Grafting a scar has a yield of 60 to 70 %in general.

I know that BHT is less % of grown, is that true ?
No,it isn't. BHT do grow but slowly. It takes longer to get 100% grow (up to 2 years or more) and you must relaize BHT ratio of Anagen/telogen is 40/60 while in scalp is 90/10. Telogen hairs takes longer than anagen hairs to grow. By combining all these factors,it seems like scalp hairs is preferable than BHT.

I have also question...
If let we say... that 70% will grown after FUE in first session...
So we will have non hair areas in scar where graft was placed.

In second session You will put new graft once again in the same place... Question is..: The graft will be growing or this little place on the scar will be bald forever ?

Yes it will grow. Because the new environment is better than the first one (more blood circulation in the tissue) and because of that the yield will be better and the chance of your new grafts to grow also.

Why two or better three sessions are prefered? Why we cant do this on the single session? I guess that blood is start to rounding in scar after placeing grafts... If yes, then why it is happen?

If you put a lot of grafts at the same time, there will be conflict between them for their nutrients. Even though neo vascularisation ( new blood vessels) will occur, it won't play a major part this time; but later on, during a second session the tissue with these new blood vessels will be ready to receive a bigger load.

I was thinking.... maybe I should perform acupuncture on the scar half before surgery ???
If it improves blood circulation, then it could be benefit. I am not expert in Acupuncture to confirm that.
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Scar size

Postby FIThair » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:24 pm

i have aprx. 10cm width and 2-3mm high scar. My question is...: How many BHT(FUE) is should put for the first session?

75 to 100 grafts

How many BHT(FUE) is should put for the second session oo maximum good effects?
100 to 150 grafts


Second question:

What is a percentage of BHT survive what transplanting into scar?
60 to 70%

What is a percentage of normal hair survive when transplanting into scar?
60 to 70 %

Is it also cost 5 Euro? I mean BHT into scar
Yes, it is.
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I know that it will be working !! I'm sure !!! I want to..:)

Postby andyandy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:17 pm

Yes, I think that I'm decide to have 2 FUE sessions.

Anyway i added some atachments....
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2006. My head shaved to zero! I Know that even after second session scar will be exist and visible. But my hope is that in future, after yours repair, scar will be diametrally less visible than now...even if I will buzz my head to zero...like here
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This is closeup of scar tissue in 2005
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As you can see I'm trying to live with this scar.... But I have enough too saying everybody that I got motor accident :)
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Postby forhair » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:12 am

andyandy, are you a racing cars driver? i wonder how was your consultation and what did you decide to do about this scar?
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Postby andyandy » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:03 pm

No :) But I have very fast racing motorbike... And I ride fast! And I'm always late :)
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