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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:05 am Translate this post:   Reply with quote
rowdyone82
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I have heard of this before, and so I enclosed a copy of the warnings on a propecia, proscar, or any of these drugs.

"Women who are or who may become pregnant must not handle crushed or broken finasteride tablets. The medication could be absorbed through the skin. Finasteride is known to cause birth defects in a developing male baby. Exposure to whole tablets should be avoided whenever possible, however exposure to whole tablets is not expected to be harmful as long as the tablets are not swallowed."

Now my question is, if a female touchs the pill or the crushed pill, while she is pregnant........ what about if she is impregnated while you are currently taking propecia? is there a possiblty that the baby could be harmed? not really sure what to make of this......... any insight would help.......
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:53 am Translate this post:   Reply with quote
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No... she has to touch it or take it. I hope this answers your question.

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Actually!!! it will because it will have the same effect as AIDS which you get from having unprotected sex(blood is transfered from very small veins on the penis to very small veins in Vagina wich are exposed from the friction). Propecia is in out blood stream hence the female will get exposure to the Propecia however I dont know how much of it will actually effect the baby.
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I continued on finasteride/propecia and my daughter was fine. baby #2 is due in another 2 months or so and everything appears fine as well. I believe I was also told what Michelle has stated by multiple doctors...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:37 pm Translate this post:   Reply with quote
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Wassup,

The effect of Prepecia is on the development of a male baby not female.
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From what I have read it is important that the mother not be in contact with the substance, not the father. This could easily be verified by many different online sources. For example this link from Merck may be of some interest.

http://www.propecia.com/finasteride/propecia/consumer/facts/faq.jsp#faq12

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:34 am Translate this post:   Reply with quote
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FINASTERIDE AND BIRTH DEFECTS

There are very few more anxiety provoking times in anyone’s life than possibly causing a birth defect in one’s own unborn child. So, it’s quite understandable that the mention of a possible birth defect with the use of finasteride (Propecia 1mg and Proscar 5mg, Merck) would cause considerable anxiety and concern. The package insert for Proscar states under the section on Contraindications: “Because of the ability of Type II 5alpha reductase inhibitors to inhibit the conversion of testosterone to DHT, finasteride may cause abnormalities of the external genitalia of a male fetus of a pregnant woman who receives finasteride”. So, is the risk real? Theoretically, yes. Practically, no.

The specific birth defect that can be caused by the absence or inhibition of the Type II 5-alpha reductase enzyme in the male embryo is hypospadias. Hypospadias is a birth defect in which the urinary tract opening is on the ventral surface (under side) of the penis rather than at the tip of the penis. There have never been congenital abnormalities observed in female fetuses at any dosage of finasteride.

During the research and development phase of finasteride, studies were done on experimental animals. Rats, rabbits, and rhesus monkeys were given finasteride to determine its relationship to birth defects, i.e. hypospadias.

Hypospadias did occur in the male offspring, when pregnant rats were administered finasteride equivalent to 5-5000 times the amount of recommended for men in treating MPB (1mg/daily). The critical period during which these effects can be induced in male rats was determined to be during the 16th –17th days of gestation.

In rabbit fetuses exposed to finasteride in utero from days 6-18 of gestation at doses equivalent to 5000 times the recommended human dosage, no evidence of malformations was observed. This result would be expected, since there was no exposure during the critical period of genital system development in rabbits.

When pregnant rhesus monkeys were given intravenous finasteride at a level equivalent to at least 750 times the highest estimated exposure of pregnant women to finasteride from semen of men taking 1mg/day, there were no genital abnormalities observed.

In the human embryo, the sensitive period of external genitalia development is during the 7th - 9th weeks of gestation. Although the chromosomal and genetic sex of an embryo is determined at fertilization by the kind of sperm, either Y-bearing or X-bearing, that fertilizes the ovum, male and female morphological characteristics do not begin to develop until the seventh week. Prior to this time, the genital systems of the two sexes are similar, and the initial period of genital development is referred to as the ‘indifferent state of sexual development’. About six weeks after conception, if a Y chromosome is present in the embryo's cells (as it is in normal males), a gene on the chromosome directs the undifferentiated gonads to become testes. If the Y chromosome is not present (as in normal females), the undifferentiated gonads will become ovaries. If the gonads become testes, they begin to produce androgens, primarily testosterone, by about eight weeks after conception. These androgens stimulate development of the one set of the genital ducts into the epididymes, vas deferens, and ejaculatory duct. The presence of androgens also stimulates development of the penis and the scrotum. Hypospadias can result if there is inadequate production of androgens by the fetal testes.

Since the sensitive period of development of the external genitalia in the human embryo is the 7th to 9th weeks of gestation, there can be no danger to the child if the father is taking finasteride at the time of conception. Originally, Merck decided to err on the side of caution and warned against the possible problem of finasteride transfer in semen. This warning has since been removed from the package insert. Considering the medical/legal implications of a theoretically possible link of finasteride treatment to birth defects, it is reasonable to assume that Merck & Co. must be very confident in knowing that impregnating a woman while taking finasteride absolutely does not cause birth defects.

Nor is there any evidence of birth defects when the father taking finasteride has intercourse with the pregnant mother during the critical periods of sexual development. The in utero effects of finasteride exposure during the period of embryonic and fetal development (gestation days 20-100) were evaluated in the rhesus monkey, a species fairly predictive of human development. Intravenous administration of finasteride to pregnant monkeys at doses as high as 800ng/day (at least 60 to 120 times the highest estimated exposure of pregnant women to finasteride from semen of men taking 5mg/day) caused no abnormalities in male fetuses.

Still, Merck retains this admonition: “Women should not handle crushed or broken Propecia tablets when they are pregnant or may be potentially pregnant because of the possibility of absorption of finasteride and the subsequent potential risk to a male fetus. Propecia tablets are coated and will prevent contact with the active ingredient during normal handling, provided that the tablets have not been broken or crushed.”

Considering that intravenous administration of finasteride to pregnant experimental animals during the critical periods of sexual development didn’t cause birth defects, there is no reason to believe that transdermal absorption of finasteride from handling broken tablets could cause birth defects in the male child. But, since Propecia has not been approved by the FDA for use by women, Merck has nothing to lose by retaining this warning. In fact, it has good p.r. value.

So, can finasteride cause birth defects? Yes, there is a theoretical possibility that it can, but the probability is close to nil, when finasteride is taken in the recommended dosages. Since Propecia was approved by the FDA on 22 December 1997 and Proscar on 28 August 1996, millions of doses of finasteride have been taken and there has not been a single case report of a birth defect. Now that’s reassuring information.

Richard Lee, M.D.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:19 am Translate this post:   Reply with quote
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I m pregnant for 3 months and losing hair very badly...What you suggest ..shall I undergo propecia...?? But, my baby is more important to me than my growing hair... Is there anything that won't affect my baby...??
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PROPECIA is for MEN ONLY 
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Your husband can take PROPECIA if you are trying to conceive or if your are currently pregnant. However, women who are or may potentially be pregnant must not use PROPECIA and should not handle crushed or broken tablets of PROPECIA because doing so may cause abnormalities of a male babys sex organs.

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hair loss and pregnancy 
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i would look for an alternative reason you are loosing your hair during pregnancy other than androgenic alopecia. propecia typically does not work in women anyway. typically hair increases during pregnancy. try evaluating your thyroid and check yourself of anemia first. once you rule out any medical conditions including arthritis, you might find an appropriate treatment. until you know the cause, you really should not consider any treatment.

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